latest tragedy has, in fact, occurred. it's also the second time in four years coal miners have died at a massey-owned west virginia facility. in '96, the deaths of two miners triggered a record $1.5 million fine from federal mine safety administration experts. in the last years, massey, the largest coal miner in central appalachia has been cited for advises. however they say the safety record has been stronger than the industry average. but again, safety issues with massey, procedures related to this tragedy and its overall operations are definitely going to come to the fore, but right now where you are and what's going on, the rescue attempt and really efforts to get to a cause for this specific tragedy are really what's most important. >> hampton, you talk about massey energy, of course, a lot of questions about the ceo of that company, don blankenship.